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Ray, LAX

Thanks for continuing to make schedule/scheduling improvements. It would be easy for you to sit back and coast. Thanks for not doing that and thank you for your ongoing efforts to help improve our quality of life through the tools you create.

Scott, LAX

Just when I thought PBS and twice daily TTS killed my need for litesabre, a crappy trip trades just minutes before trip trade closes. Best $21 spent all month.


Rob, I am retiring on 15Aug. Please discontinue my subscription at that time. Your service has been excellent in every way. Thank you for your continued innovation as you have adapted with all of the recent changes at American. Best of luck in the future.

Mel, LGA

Thanks Rob and thanks for LiteSabre huge difference in work related issues. Fantastic concept turned into reality. Best thing that has been brought to the floor of AA in the 30 plus years I've been employed here. Thank you again for this valuable asset

Seth, MIA

I just began my litesabre trial. Auto Enhance was able to swap my 3 day that ended at 20:30 for one worth the same pay that duties out at 09:30! It's my 6th day on the road, and now I just got to enjoy another family dinner! Thanks

Dana, LGA

Rob, I have been a faithful user for the last couple of years. I have been amazed by the capabilities and features of your application. Where were you 32 years ago when I first came to AA? Although I usually bid reserve, your app still provides me with a great deal of valuable information in a timely manner. Thank you very much for your tireless effort and unending support of us, the AA pilots. I have one final request. I will be retiring next week and request that you cancel my subscription. It's been a hell of a ride and you have made it that much more enjoyable. My best wishes for your continued success.

Riley, DCA

LiteSabre has been a great tool in many regards. I appreciate all of the innovation, tools, and your hard work! You made my job much easier in a number of ways. Congrats on a great product and wishing you success in the future.

John, LGA

So far the Auto trade thing is working great. I like the fact that I can set all the choices right from my phone. I hate thinking about this stuff while I'm at home. Thanks.

John, LGA

Finally... what CCI should be. Thanks for all your hard work.

Help and FAQs

Initial Help. Read this if you are new to LiteSabre.

NOTE: If you don't get an answer to your question on this page, try asking it in C&R. There you will find an active community of LiteSabre users ready to help.

Click on a link below to see the help contents.

Login Problems for Phone web apps

I can't login, or the app does not stay logged in.

If you have the correct usename and password, and when you login to any web app it returns to the home page, or goes back to the login screen, it's most likely due to the cookies. Try these steps in this order.

  • If you can logout, then do so and log back in. Try the app features. If this does not work...
  • If you are on an iPad or iPhone, delete all home screen icons for LiteSabre apps (you must delete ALL of them). Then, go here and sign in again. Attempt to login. If successful, create new home screen icons by bookmarking the apps to the home screen. If you are on a laptop or desktop, ensure all bookmarks begin with https, and not http. If you cannot edit them to make them https, then delete them and try again...If this does not work...
  • Delete all cookies and data from the browser. Then try the above link again.

Will litesabre work on my iPad?

LiteSabre has several apps that work on the iPad. To see how to set home screen icons for them please view this video

How do I drop a 24? (DFP)

You can manage your 24s from Nimble Trader. Just drag any future 24 to the trash can to drop it, or to another date in the future. Nimble Trader is available only in a laptop or desktop, and must be used in the Google Chrome browser. Go HERE in Chrome to get Nimble Trader.

You can also move DFPs in the My Trip web app. Go HERE from your phone and choose Options -> DFP Mover.

Passwords, Passwords!! My passwords don't work.

Please read this page about the required passwords.

How do I set up RES Code Shuffler?

Please read this page.

Nimble Trader (APA members only)

How do I reinstall Nimble Trader?

Open a new tab in Chrome, then click the 'Apps' icon in the bookmark bar at the upper left. You'll see the Nimble icon. Right click it, and choose, Remove From Chrome. Then, go HERE to reinstall it.

When I try to start the nimble trader app in Chrome, I expands on the desktop, then shrinks to the icon in the bar at the bottom, and will not expand.

Try pressing 'Windows Key + d key' twice.
If this does not work, use the keyboard commands to relocate the program to a part of the screen you can see.

  • Put your mouse over (do NOT click) the program in the Task Bar until the preview appears directly above it.
  • Right Click on the preview and select MOVE.
  • Use the arrow keys on the keyboard to relocate to a part of the screen you can see.
  • Press the ENTER key on your keyboard when it is moved.
  • You can then use the mouse to move and resize the window as you see fit.
If this also does not work, delete the app from the browser and install it again.
To uninstall, open a new tab in Chrome and click the "Apps' icon on the upper left. when you see the Nimble Trader icon, right click it an choose Remove From Chrome.
To install again, go from HERE


Do I need a Paypal account?

No. All new subscribers will now be able to enter a credit card directly into the LiteSabre My Account page. Only members who signed up in 2015 or earlier have Paypal recurring payments. If you have a Paypal recurring payment set up, and would like to switch to direct credit card entry, please cancel the recurring payment in Paypal, then go HERE to enter a credit card. (please wait until Paypal sends you the payment cancelation email).

How do I change or cancel my automatic monthly payments?

To subscribe to LiteSabre please go HERE. To change or cancel an existing subscription just go HERE. If this page does not show a method to enter a credit card it is because you have an existing Paypal recurring payment. In this case, contact Support to cancel a failing Paypal payment plan. Once canceled, you will be able to enter a credit card directly at the above link.

My Trip Web App

How do I clear the data on my mobile phone?

To clear the data on an iPhone, go here. To clear the cache on Android, go to Settings -> Apps -> All -> Browser -> Clear data.

Deadhead Seat Changer

LiteSabre checked me in automatically, but I am not on the upgrade list. Why?

LiteSabre uses to check you in, and there is no way to put yourself on the upgrade list that way. But, your position on the upgrade list depends on when you checked in, and not when you put yourself on the upgrade list, so just tell the agent you want to upgrade, and she will put you on the list in the order of when you checked in.

Google Calendar

LiteSabre is not syncing with my Google calendar.

LiteSabre will import active sequences, vacation, training and other 'HI10 Events' into the Google calendar. Here's how it works. LiteSabre takes a snapshot or your HISEQ, HI3, HI4, HI5 and HI10 and determines which of your sequences is in the future. It then uploads all legs of all sequences that are relevant.

Also... read this email by a LiteSabre user:

I've been using my iPhone/iTouch/iPad with Google Sync today with your new update. Thanks for the ability to update via the website. After doing some updating I'm beginning to think that my problems with Google Sync may have to do with my iPhone/iTouch/iPad syncing with Google rather than with your Google Sync. The first time I had problems it was always with the calendar on one of the iOS devices. I thought I also checked my calendar via Google's website, and entries weren't right, but now I'm not sure. Today I did an update and my AA schedules on my iOS devices weren't right, but they were on the website. Since I thought you said you have an iPhone you probably already know this.

There are two ways to set up iOS device calendars to update with Google. One is using the Microsoft Exchange mail choice, the other using the Gmail choice. I had been using the Microsoft Exchange set up. I switched my iOS calendar updating to the Gmail set up and all the Google Sync entries are right on my iOS devices. So it seems like the Microsoft Exchange set up may have been my problem.

My calendar has duplicate entries. How do I avoid this?

LiteSabre will ensure that you do not have duplicate entries by erasing all invalid events that occur in the future when performing a 'Google Sync'. Make sure no events are retained by a third party program such as iCal or Outlook. It is possible to re-introduce invalid sequence events depending on the syncing priority between Google and the third party program.
Avoiding this duplication in iCal requires that you "subscribe" to the Google Calendar by pointing iCal to the link on the Google Calendar's site and delete any CalDavs. Now, all the devices (iPhone, iPad) show the subscribed Google Calendar and the sync should not produce duplicates.

Here's more info from a liteSabre member:

On google calendar page on the margin under "my calendars", a drop box appears next to the calendar you wish to sync. Choosing "share this calendar" from that leads to a page of three tabs of which you're on the middle tab. The left tab is called "calendar details" and there you'll find an iCal link for the "private address" at the bottom of the page. This is the subscription link to copy and paste into iCal's subscription area. Thats the google side of things. Don't forget to delete the caldav account or you will have two of the same calendars in iCal.

I use iCal. Does LiteSabre support synching to iCal?

No, and yes! LiteSabre only writes and edits a Google calendar, but you can subscribe to that calendar in iCal, so your iCal is always up to date.

Here's how:
Simply create a google account if you don't have one already, and follow the instructions here to set up LiteSabre to access and edit it. Then, in Google calendar go to 'Settings' (look for the gear on the right of the page) -> Calendars -> Share this calendar (for the calendar that LiteSabre writes to... there may be more than one)-> Calendar Details ... and look at the bottom of that page where it says: Private Address. Click the 'ICAL' button, and copy that URL. Then, go to iCal and click the menu 'Calendar' -> Subscribe. Then, paste that URL there.

That's it. Now, every time LiteSabre updates your Google calendar your iCal calendar will update when you refresh it.

I created a calendar event, but it is not displayed below an open trip in the Trip Trade tab on the home installed program.

To update the calendar events that appear below open time displays, simply click any other tab, and then back to the Trip Trade tab, or HISEP tab. The display will update in the background when you do this.

LiteSabre 'Trips'

I am trying to view next month's pairings, but the screen is blank.

Set Trips up this way.

What is the difference between the red Trade HTMD buttons and the blue Auto Trade/Red/Redder button?

The red buttons allow you to attempt to trade a trip immediately, and the blue button is used to set an Auto Trade or Red/Redder trade.

  • +HTMD ... add the HTMD code to the trade, which will automatically move DFPs to accommodate the trade. (Most common).
  • -HTMD ... Don't add the HTMD code. DFPs won't be moved, but if there is a conflict, the trade will fail.
  • Auto Trade (blue button).. Set this trade into Auto Trade so that it will be tried when TTOT opens for the following month.
  • Red/Redder (blue button).. Set this AFTER TTOT has opened for the following month, only when a trade you already tried failed for RED/REDDER. These trades will be retried periodically in case the lights change.

  • Auto Drop

    How do I post my trip for drop in DECS?

    Just go to Auto Drop and choose a drop type, click the Submit button that pops up, and LiteSabre will automatically post it for you in DECS.

    How do I UNpost my trip in DECS?

    Go to Auto Drop and set your trip to Do Nothing or Notify Only. This will unpost the trip in your HISEQ.You will receive a message when the change is made. If you don't receive a message, contact Support.

    How do I drop all of my trips?

    Just set them all to either Drop/UNC, Drop/PVD, or Drop/VAC. LiteSabre will drop any trips that are GREEN.

    What does UNC, PVD, and VAC mean?

    UNC means you will drop the trip for no pay or credit (uncredited).
    PVD means you will drop the trip for future vacation days.
    VAC means you will drop the trip for current vacation days. Read THIS for more info.

    Auto Trade

    If a trip arrives after midnight, how many days is this considered to be?

    Normally, if a trip arrives after midnight HBT, it is considered by LiteSabre to be another day. For instance, if a turn departs at 1600 and arrive the same night at 0012, it is considered a 2 day trip.

    There are exceptions to this rule however, when you create a request with time ranges that span midnight. The Auto Trade tutorial found HERE gives examples of exceptions to this rule.

    I keep getting failed trades due to an A-UNABLE TO REPLACE DFPS message

    Since many lines now have more hours and more days in them, the DFPs do not have any place to move on some lines. Some pilots are building their lines up to nearly the Max of 92-96 hours and then trying to trade. This is resulting in failed trades due to DFP problems. To alleviate this do the following before setting any auto trade requests, drop a few 24s.

    What does HTMD mean?

    HTMD is a DECS code that specifies whether or not you want your duty-free periods (DFPs) to be moved in order to accommodate a trade. Most pilots don't care if the DFPs are shuffled around or not, they just want the trade to go through, but sometimes pilots don't want their DFPs to change, usually so they can have some control over training. In that case, choose -HTMD when creating an Auto Trade request. If you don't care about DFP position, then choose +HTMD.

    Is LiteSabre hooked up to TTS and TTOT?

    No. LiteSabre only interacts with TTOT, and can automatically do pilot to pilot trades through FOS. It does not interact with TTS.


    You are getting this when trying to trade or pickup when there is no place to shuffle the DFPs ('24' on your HI1). You must drop one or two of them, in order to make room for the trip you want to trade into. You can drop DFPs easily in the DFP Mover. Go here, then Options -> DFP Mover.

    Are multiple layover city requests treated as "OR" or are they treated as "AND"?

    For example, if I have both CDG and MXP in the desired layover cities box, will it award me a trip with either of those layover cities?
    ANS: 'OR'. If either of the cites are visited that you list in Desired Cities, liteSabre will attempt to trade onto that trip.

    How do I trade with a trip that is listed as Sick?

    Sick Pending trips are not open, they are still owned by the pilot who is on the sick list. Normally, if he remains on the sick list, scheduling will remove him the day prior, too late for you to trade with it. To fix this, contact the pilot directly, and ask if he intends to stay on the sick list for that trip. If so, ask him/her to contact scheduling through the LiteSabre HISEND App, and tell them that he will not be flying that trip. Scheduling will then drop it into open time. IMPORTANT: If you want that trip, set up an Auto Trade request before you contact the pilot. This way, when it hits open time you will have a good chance of picking it up or trading with it right away. Do not set a Red/Redder in this case. It must be an Auto Trade request, using the Create New button.

    LiteSabre did not pick up a trip that was in open time. Why?

    If the open trip already exists in open time before you enter a request for pickup or trade, LiteSabre will not react to it. It only takes action on trips that "appear" after you set a request. The exception to this is when TTOT opens for the following month. At that time, all trips are considered "new" and LiteSabre will take the appropriate action reference your trade requests.

    How does LiteSabre decide who gets an open trip?

    read this blog post.

    Can I sort my requests so I can get the best open trip possible?

    You must understand that open / posted trips are processed as if they are the only trip available.. so, once a trip comes into the system that meets your criteria, liteSabre will trade for it. TTOT is a first-come, first-served system, and liteSabre has no way of knowing when another trip may open that you want more than the one that is being examined... even if it is in the queue. The sorting you see on the Auto Trade page allows you to sort your requests, but only as they all pertain to one open trip, not multiple trips.

    How do I set up alerts for trips that come open during the month?

    Easily. Just click the 'Create New' button to create a new Trade Request in Auto Trade (Desktop version), and set it to "Verify First".
    For the mobile version of Auto Trade, go here and choose Options -> Auto Trade.

    I get the following error when trying to pickup a trip: CREWMEMBERS NOT AT SAME BASE

    You cannot pickup Out of Base (OOB) trips using TTOT, which is what Litesabre uses, and the reason you are getting this error. You must put yourself on the OOB list at -> Personal & Profile -> Out of Base Pickup, then wait for scheduling to call you. You can use LiteSabre's Auto Trade to alert you to OOB trips, without being on that list. Just make sure that when you get an alert for a trip you want (same day or next day only), immediately go to, put yourself on OOB, then call scheduling. They probably already checked that list, and did not see you on it, so you must call them.

    I was told I could pick up a trip posted before TTOT starts without calling the trip owner. How?

    Easily, by using the Trips app. Just search for the posted trip, and if the owner is a LiteSabre member, you can pick it up without contacting him/her. Non-Litesabre member trip owners still require contact, but LiteSabre will provide you their contact information when you try to pick up the trip, if this is the case.

    Tell me more about Auto Trade.

    -You will get trade alerts when trips open up, regardless of the month.
    -If a trip is posted before TTOT opens and you have an alert for it, you should get the owner's phone number displayed when you click the text message. You will not get an alert if your request is set to Trade Immediately, since you won't be able to immediately trade it.
    -Immediate trades are ignored before TTOT starts.
    -8 minutes before TTOT starts trade requests are queued, CANNOT BE CHANGED, and timed for when TTOT starts. Trade alerts are turned off for that 8 minutes window, so you won't get flooded with text messages.
    --Simple rule of thumb. Set alerts when you want to call the trip owner and grab the trip before TTOT opens. Set Trade Immediately requests to grab trips when TTOT opens for the month.

    How to I change my four part status?

    ‚ÄčLiteSabre will automatically detect this after your HI2 is populated with next month's bids. This works for all pilots except Check Airmen. Check Airmen must manually enter their 4 part status here.

    How do I drop a 24? (DFP)

    You can move DFPs in the My Trip web app. Go HERE from your phone and choose Options -> DFP Mover.

    You can also manage your 24s from Nimble Trader. Just drag any future 24 to the trash can to drop it, or to another date in the future. Nimble Trader is available only in a laptop or desktop, and must be used in the Google Chrome browser. Go HERE in Chrome to get Nimble Trader.


    I put in a trip to trade red/redder. It accepts. It tries once. Says your request is dropped because sequence not open. I thought it was supposed to try every 60 minutes?

    When you enter a Red/redder trade, litesabre tries to trade your trip for the open trip, and if the trade fails because your trip is redder than the trip you want to pick up, liteSabre will retry the trade periodically, hoping that down the road, the light statuses will change, and the trade would go through.

    When you enter a red/redder, and liteSabre drops the request immediately, it's because the trade failed for some reason other than the lights, and there is no chance that this condition would change in the future.

    This is what occurs when you enter a red/redder, trying to pick up a trip that is not open (if it's listed as Sick, read the next FAQ). It's impossible to trade your trip for a trip that is not open, so liteSabre rejects the request.

    I set a Red/Redder for a Sick Pending trip, and liteSabre dropped the request immediately. Why?

    Sick Pending trips are not open, they are still owned by the pilot who is on the sick list. Normally, if he remains on the sick list, scheduling will remove him the day prior, too late for you to trade with it. To fix this, contact the pilot directly, and ask if he intends to stay on the sick list for that trip. If so, ask him/her to contact scheduling through the LiteSabre HISEND App, and tell them that he will not be flying that trip. Scheduling will then drop it into open time. IMPORTANT: If you want that trip, set up an Auto Trade request before you contact the pilot. This way, when it hits open time you will have a good chance of picking it up or trading with it right away. Do not set a Red/Redder in this case. It must be an Auto Trade request, using the Create New button.


    What is available for reserve pilots?

    LiteSabre has two features built exclusively for reserves.

    1. HIRPB Builder. This app allows you to easily build HIRPB requests with drag and drop. Set sequence choices and Raps. Go HERE, and choose Options -> More -> Reserve.
      Also, read the HIRPB Tutorial.
    2. Automatic notifications for open sequences that depart today or tomorrow, filtered for legality, and DFP conflicts. LiteSabre automatically identifies when you are on reserve, so there is not set up required by you. A special Auto Trade request (ID 7777) is created and modified each day to cover today and tomorrow.
    3. Of course, reserve pilots get the benefits of Delay Minder, My Trip Fetch, Commuter Pal, FAR 117 and Deadhead Seat Changer (a godsend, since reserve pilots deadhead more often than line pilots). Also, check out HISEND, which allows you to more easily communicate with Scheduling.

    Home Installed Program (non APA members)

    I installed the home-installed program on my my Mac, but can't find anything to click on.

    LiteSabre installs to the Applications folder on your Mac. Open a finder, and click on the 'Applications' folder. Look for a folder called LiteSabre. In that folder there are two files;, and README.txt. Double-click the file, and the program should start. Please read the README.txt file for important information.

    I double-clicked on the LiteSabre file, but nothing happened.

    Please make sure you have the latest version of java installed on your computer. In Windows, you can upgrade to the latest version of Java at

    I have the Java 64 bit runtime installed, but when I run LiteSabre, it asks for the 32 bit runtime.

    When I try to run the program, I get a pop up that says: "No JVM could be found on your system. Please define EXE4J_JAVA_HOME to point to an installed 32 bit JDK or JRE or download a JRE from" The fix from a user: "I am running another application that requires Java and it runs fine. When I tried to download the 32 bit Java runtime, it was not available to me. Presumably because I'm running 64 bit. Then it dawned on me that I might need two versions of Java. So I opened a 32 bit browser and tried to download Java. This time I was able to do it. And my 64 bit application still works. So I assume I have two versions of Java available. One for 32 bit programs and one for 64 bit programs."

    Sometimes LiteSabre opens a finder window. Why?

    This is normal. Periodically, LiteSabre downloads a new updater application, and saves it in the liteSabre folder. On the Mac, a finder window will open when this happens.

    I clicked the shortcut on my Windows desktop, but nothing happened.

    LiteSabre is most likely already running in the background, and will not start up a second copy. Please check the Windows Notification Area for a small black or purple icon and right-click it.

    Can I run more than one copy of the home installed LiteSabre program at the same time?

    Yes. There are no restrictions. They will not conflict.

    The application will not auto update.

    Some automatic updating problems are caused by a permissions problem. If you are running LiteSabre on an account that is not an administrator, the updater may not be able to write the required files. Please install and run LiteSabre on an administrator account. If you have already installed LiteSabre on a 'non-admin' account, please uninstall it, delete the liteSabre folder (found in Applications - Mac, or My Document - Windows), and then reinstall it into an account with administrator privilages.

    Another possible problem might be due to a corrupted local file. To remedy this, delete all files from the liteSabre folder EXCEPT liteSabre.exe (Windows) or (Mac) and then double-click that file. The liteSabre folder is found in My Documents (Windows) or Applications (Mac).

    Home Installed program user tips.
    To begin, click either 'HI' button above the calendar. Once the calendar is populated with your schedule, you can click on any sequence or DFP in the calendar for options.

    You can view, drop, or trade any trip by clicking on the sequence number in the calendar (you will get a pop up window when you click on the calendar, like this).

    To trade a trip, choose the 'trade' option in the popup window that appears when clicking on the sequence in the calendar. This will display all open trips (not posted) from tomorrow to the end of the month. Click on any sequence to view it, and then click the "Trade with ..." button at the bottom of the window that is displaying the open sequence.
    What the colors mean... The open time is colored coded according to whether or not you are legal for the trip (colors only appear if your trip is RED).
  • RED: The trip appears only on the N4D/N4I. You cannot trade for this trip.
  • YELLOW: The trip appears on the N4D/N4I, and the N4T but not on the N4TL. Your trip is not redder, but you cannot trade for it because you have a schedule conflict.
  • GREEN: The trip appears on the N4D/N4I, the N4T, and the N4TL. You can trade for this trip.

  • To move or replace any DFP. Just click on any DFP in the calendar and follow the pop up window. In LiteSabre, you can move a DFP, or replace it with another of a different type. (ex: drop a 96, and replace it with a 72 and a 48.) Just follow the wizard that pops up when you click on a DFP in the calendar.

    To post a red trip, try dropping it by choosing the 'Drop' option in the pop up window when you click on any sequence in the calendar. When DECS denies you after completion of the trade attempt, you will be able to post it by clicking on the link.

    You can test trades by selecting "Trade Mode - Test" with the button at the top of the screen. Also, if you encounter any unusual responses, or if you time out of DECS, you can click the "Reset" button at the top right of the page.

    The fields below the calendar are for quickly inputting trades when TTOT begins. Use these windows to pre-load trades before TTOT starts so you can quickly launch them when TTOT begins. They will also be saved in these windows so you can relaunch them if required.

    Click the "+" button for the wizard, and follow the popups. When you become accustomed to the syntax of the windows you can type in trades directly.

    Get Sabre time. To get a running clock of Sabre time, just click the 'Get Sabre Time' button under the calendar. You will get a running clock, coordinated to Sabre.

    At the bottom to the right of the LiteSabre Trip Trade page are the open time buttons. They are automatically set up for your equipment and base.

    Use these when you want to pick up a trip. To access open time for any bid status, switch to the "General Sabre" tab at the top of the screen.